Legislature(2017 - 2018)HOUSE FINANCE 519

04/18/2017 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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+ teleconferenced
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+ HB 38 WORKERS' COMPENSATION: DEATH BENEFITS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 69 REPEAL WORKERS' COMP APPEALS COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 69(JUD) Out of Committee
+ SB 29 REPEAL WORKERS' COMP APPEALS COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
<Pending Referral>
+ HCR 3 APRIL 2017: CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHCR 3(FIN) Out of Committee
+= SB 51 EXTEND BOARD OF VETERINARY EXAMINERS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 51(FIN) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 38                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act relating  to the  calculation  and payment  of                                                                    
     workers'   compensation  benefits   in   the  case   of                                                                    
     permanent   partial   impairment;   relating   to   the                                                                    
     calculation and payment  of workers' compensation death                                                                    
     benefits payable to a child  of an employee where there                                                                    
     is  no surviving  spouse; relating  to the  calculation                                                                    
     and  payment of  workers'  compensation death  benefits                                                                    
     for an  employee without a  surviving spouse  or child;                                                                    
     relating  to  notice  of  workers'  compensation  death                                                                    
     benefits; and providing for an effective date."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:01:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Gara  MOVED  to  ADOPT  the  proposed  committee                                                                    
substitute  for  HB  38, Work  Draft  30-LS0160\R  (Wallace,                                                                    
4/11/17).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDY JOSEPHSON,  SPONSOR, explained the bill.                                                                    
House  Bill 38  addressed an  injustice that  came to  light                                                                    
when  Abigail  Caudle,   a  twenty-six  year-old  electrical                                                                    
worker, was killed  on the job in 2011.   Because Ms. Caudle                                                                    
was   unmarried  and   had  no   dependents,  the   workers'                                                                    
compensation system paid only for  her funeral expenses.  HB
38  directs that  when a  worker  dies without  a spouse  or                                                                    
minor children,  then either relatives who  depended on that                                                                    
worker for support,  or the worker's estate,  will receive a                                                                    
respectful amount of  compensation.   HB 38  also solves the                                                                    
problem of  inadequate financial  support of  children after                                                                    
their single parent  dies on the job.   Currently, teenagers                                                                    
may  receive  only  a few  months  of  financial  assistance                                                                    
before their  support is  cut off  when they  turn eighteen.                                                                    
The bill  continued payment  of the  death benefit  for five                                                                    
years after  the child reaches legal  adulthood. Finally, HB
38 would  bring more  equitable compensation to  workers for                                                                    
permanent  injuries,  such as  loss  of  an arm.    One-time                                                                    
payments   for  permanent,   partial   disability  had   not                                                                    
increased since  2000, and  their value  had been  eroded by                                                                    
inflation.  The bill increased  the payments to off-set past                                                                    
inflation, and  provided an annual  adjustment based  on the                                                                    
Anchorage Consumer Price Index.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:10:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara surmised that  a worker's compensation claim                                                                    
was often much less.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson replied it was generally true.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Gara wondered  whether there  would be  the same                                                                    
compensation should a person lose one arm versus both arms.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  replied  that he  felt  that  the                                                                    
compensation would  increase, so  the scheduled  weekly wage                                                                    
equivalent would increase.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PAUL KELLY, STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE ANDY JOSEPHSON, furthered                                                                    
that  the schedule  was determined  by the  American Medical                                                                    
Association guides,  so that would determine  the percentage                                                                    
of  permanent  partial  impairment  that  the  worker  would                                                                    
receive.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson WITHDREW  her OBJECTION.  There being                                                                    
NO OBJECTION, Work Draft 30-LS0160\R was ADOPTED.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg  noted that there was  an elevator                                                                    
analogy   where  the   worker  received   compensation,  but                                                                    
wondered whether the customer would receive compensation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  responded that the  customer would                                                                    
not  receive worker's  compensation.  He  stated that  there                                                                    
would  generally be  no  compensation,  unless the  customer                                                                    
filed a claim or a lawsuit.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:14:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Guttenberg    stressed    that    worker's                                                                    
compensation was  created to  get the  worker back  to work,                                                                    
and  not only  to create  a  "right or  wrong." He  wondered                                                                    
whether there was a similar law.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  replied that  he did not  know the                                                                    
answer.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:16:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Kawasaki   referred    to   Representative                                                                    
Josephson's statement related to family and friends.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson replied he  had meant the statement                                                                    
almost in a spiritual sense.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki asked how far the benefit extended.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  replied that the benefit  ended at                                                                    
the  parents;  if there  were  no  parents  it went  to  the                                                                    
estate.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:20:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki  spoke about  a  person  who was  a                                                                    
beneficiary  of the  estate. He  asked for  verification the                                                                    
money could go to someone who was not a family member.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson supposed  there  could  be a  best                                                                    
friend named in the will who would get the benefit.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki  asked  if   the  $100,000  was  an                                                                    
admission that it was the current status with inflation.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson replied  that his  staff had  done                                                                    
some research and the number may be as high as $140,000.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson pointed  to  agency  receipts in  the                                                                    
fiscal note. She wondered if  employers would be paying more                                                                    
into workers' compensation to cover the increase.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  answered   that  the  number  was                                                                    
$512,000,  which came  principally from  an increase  in the                                                                    
PPI  [personal property  insurance];  it was  a fiscal  note                                                                    
increase that  would have  to be collected  in the  event of                                                                    
death. The  problem was  if the  situation was  not upgraded                                                                    
they were stuck at 2000 indefinitely.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson did  not understand  where the  money                                                                    
was coming from. She asked for detail.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:24:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson   answered  risk   management  was                                                                    
funded by interagency receipts.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MARIE  MARX,   DIRECTOR,  WORKERS'   COMPENSATION  DIVISION,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT  OF LABOR  AND WORKFORCE  DEVELOPMENT, introduced                                                                    
herself.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SHERI  GRAY,  RISK  MANAGER, DIVISION  OF  RISK  MANAGEMENT,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT    OF   ADMINISTRATION,    answered   that    the                                                                    
dissemination to the  agencies was through the  cost of risk                                                                    
agencies who were under the  state's self-insurance plan for                                                                    
worker's compensation.  She explained  that it  involved the                                                                    
number of  full-time employees and  a formula  of experience                                                                    
of actual  worker's compensation claims and  the expectation                                                                    
of additional claims. She remarked  that there was a complex                                                                    
process, and she could not fully explain the process.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Wilson   surmised  that   the   interagency                                                                    
receipts were  paid into the  funds to pay for  the possible                                                                    
occurrence.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Gray answered that she did not know.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson stated  the  money had  to be  coming                                                                    
from  somewhere.  She was  trying  to  determine the  fiscal                                                                    
impact.  She   asked  the  department  to   follow  up.  She                                                                    
understood the note was indeterminate.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Gray answered that the  allocations to the agencies were                                                                    
done on  an annual  basis and  were based  on 80  percent of                                                                    
prior five years  claims and 20 percent  of expected claims.                                                                    
The  process it  was spread  out through  agencies, so  they                                                                    
were not taking the full brunt.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:29:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson asked  if there  was a  specific fund                                                                    
where the money was collected into.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Gray replied in the affirmative.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson asked how it was done.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Gray would follow up.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara  stated there was an  annual contribution by                                                                    
agencies, and  remarked in  some years  where there  was not                                                                    
enough  money   there  would  have   to  be   an  additional                                                                    
appropriation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Gray agreed to follow up with additional information.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:30:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIANNE  BURKE, MOTHER  OF ABIGAIL  CAUDLE, ANCHORAGE  (via                                                                    
teleconference),  testified  that  she  was  the  mother  of                                                                    
Abigail  Caudle.  Her  daughter  had been  up  on  a  ladder                                                                    
working and inadvertently  touched a live wire.  She had not                                                                    
been revived. It had been  very difficult to understand that                                                                    
there was  no liability  to the  employer. Abigail  had been                                                                    
given nothing  for her  life. She  continued to  explain the                                                                    
situation.  She was  frustrated there  had been  no justice.                                                                    
She  could not  go to  civil  court, and  could only  pursue                                                                    
workers' compensation.  She asked  the committee  members to                                                                    
consider the  value of their  children's lives.  She thought                                                                    
$20,000 was  an insult  to the value  of life.  She wondered                                                                    
what was wrong  with Alaska being number  one in recognizing                                                                    
human life. She stressed that  the accident had not been her                                                                    
daughter's fault. She urged the committee to pass the bill.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:37:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara expressed his sympathy.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Burke looked  at Chapter  25 of  Alaska State  Statute,                                                                    
which was  the "Defective Machinery Act."  She stressed that                                                                    
in  that  statute, the  employer  was  liable, but  she  had                                                                    
received to recognition of that statute.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Co-Chair Seaton joined the meeting]                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  indicated  that  Mr.  Kelly  had  a  short                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:39:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Kelly provided a PowerPoint  presentation titled "HB 38:                                                                    
Abigail Caudle Act" (copy on file):                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The estate  of a single  worker with no  dependents who                                                                    
     dies on the job has no remedy                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     protect these employees                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     PPI                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB38 CS WORKDRAFT ver R 4.12.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
HB 38 PowerPoint Presentation version R 4.12.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
HB38 Explanation of Changes version A to version O 4.11.2017.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
HB38 Explanation of Changes version O to version R 4.12.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
HB38 Sponsor Statement 2.9.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
HB38 Supporting Document - 2017 Research Report 3.24.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
HB38 Supporting Document - Alaska Div of Insurance Decreases on Work Comp Premiums R16-04 4.11.2017.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
HB38 Supporting Document - Research Report 4.11.15.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
HB38 Supporting Document - Research Report on 23.30.190(a) 4.8.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
HB38 Supporting Document - Worker's Compensation Rates Spreadsheet 4.11.2017.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
HB38 ver O Sectional Analysis 4.11.2017.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
HB38 ver O Side-by-side 4.11.2017.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
HB38 ver R Side-by-side 4.12.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
Explanation of Changes CS for HB 69 (JUD) Ver A to Ver U 4-14-2017.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 69
HB069 Additional Documents - WCAC cases 4.2.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 69
HB069 Opposing Document-Letter from Attorneys 4.2.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 69
HB069 Opposing Document-Letter from Work Comp Comm of AK 4.2.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 69
HB069 Sponsor Statement 4.2.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 69
HB069 Supporting Document-Croft Letter 4.2.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 69
HB069 Supporting Document-Croft Research 4.2.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 69
Sectional Analysis for HB 69 ver A 4.14.2017.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 69
HCR003 Letters of Support A 2.23.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HCR 3
HCR003 Letters of Support B 2.23.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HCR 3
HCR003 Sponsor Statement 2.23.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HCR 3
HCR003 Supporting Document - Providence Hospital Facts About Child Sexual Abuse 2.23.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HCR 3
HCR003 Supporting Document - Office of Child Welfare Consequences of Child Abuse and Neglect 2.23.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HCR 3
HCR003 Supporting Document - Governor Parnell Proclamation HCR21 2014 2.23.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HCR 3
HCR003 Supporting Document - Governor Walker Proclamation Child Abuse Prevention and Awareness Month March 2016 2.23.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HCR 3
HCR003 Supporting Document - Governor Walker Proclamation Sexual Assault Awareness Month March 2016 2.23.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HCR 3
SB51 Summary of Changes .pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 51
SB51 Supporting Documents-Legislative Audit.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 51
SB51 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 51
HB38 Supporting Document - Comparative state PPI payouts 4.18.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
HB38 ver R Sectional Analysis 4.18.17.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38
HCR 3 Amendment #1 Foster.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HCR 3
HCR 3 Supporting Document OCS Statistical Information.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HCR 3
HB 38 Response from DOA.pdf HFIN 4/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 38